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La Corua's avatar

Good write-up, Joe! In the end, compromise is the name of the game-- something that’s going extinct these days. Big business is always sunshine & roses going in. Reality once in is another matter. And it is always we (the public) who pick up the tab. I just finished a 3-parter on Oak Flat and their fight against big business invasion… I do not have high hopes.

https://lacorua.substack.com/p/the-shame-of-oak-flat

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Wyatt Kanyer's avatar

It seems to me that this version of Project Blue is a win for both ends of the divide. The county needs the revenue, and that will hopefully boost much-needed programs (more shelter for growing unhoused population, updates to county infrastructure, etc). I hope the city releases more water usage numbers on the closed loop system so that the public can compare those with the previous plan.

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Dave Gallagher's avatar

The cost of electricity is rising fairly steeply across the country and data centers are considered the number one reason why.

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Betts* Putnam-Hidalgo's avatar

Glad to see Dahl get on board with getting rid of TEP-- pretty funny comment though from someone who was only representing his constituents enough to get 50 percent plus 12 people to get him another chance.... on the issue of project blue and the county i don't trust any of the project mgers nor the supervisors who supported it. Lets all watch our electric bills go up and remember in november.....

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Nancy F Smith's avatar

I value the public's right to know about city projects in their wards as in the STAR homeless shelter in Ward 3. I also value their right to speak and too ject. However, is anyone offering alternative solutions to the homeless problem besides not in my backyard? The city and county are trying many things, hopefully this project will help. Homelessness is complex and jailing people without shelter is ineffective, expensive, and cruel. So, protesters, what ideas do you have to share with city and nonprofit reps? Curt and Joe, has anyone at the public meetings offered any other constructive ideas?

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Algo Mas's avatar

I'll donate my 15KW Generac to Project Blue. I no longer need it. Might run a few break rooms. The sniveling, dysfunctional Tom Crosby needs to go. Once he runs out of miss-direction and delays...he is out of politics. The sooner that happens...the better. Gail Griffin can ride shotgun on Irrelevance Blvd.

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Brian S's avatar

I do really hope we can buy out TEP. We might miss out on the tax revenue for the city, but my guess is that the massive profits TEP will reap from doubling electricity demand will dwarf that revenue. If we can capture that for the city, we could get the best of both worlds. Let Amazon build their data center, but charge an arm an a leg for power then use that revenue to build out tons of solar and improve city services.

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Charlie Grantham (Tucson)'s avatar

I still feel like we are having the wool pulled over our eyes. After doing a little research, I have a question for Pima County to ask. Why are they not considering on-site generation? See

https://www.microgridknowledge.com/data-center-microgrids/article/55314015/powering-the-data-center-surge-challenges-tradeoffs-and-opportunities-for-on-site-generation?o_eid=9403H5080734A9D&oly_enc_id=9403H5080734A9D&rdx.ident[pull]=omeda|9403H5080734A9D fro details.

Their engineering staff seems to be stuck in 2005. Where is the cost/benefit analysis of ALL options prepared and AUDITED by a third party? Jeez, we didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

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