Also, there is a press conference/rally at Ciscomani’s Tucson office tomorrow from 8-10 a.m. It’s billed as a celebration of Medicaid’s 60th anniversary, but I hope people show up in numbers demanding an in-person public forum during the August recess (not holding my breath)
Thank you for your update on the NDA, and for continuing to press that the name of the corporation behind this is Amazon. I have just completed my third draft over three days on a report that goes into the indirect water usage of Project Blue. Let me know if you are interested in this information. Essentially, it concludes that water consumption, direct and indirect, is likely to be from 3.4-5.9 times higher than Project Blue projects.
In fact, prop 414 can only be overshadowed in its public dislike by Project Blue! Almost makes you wonder if this crew really wants to be re elected, or are they looking to appease a republican constituency in order to run for statewide offices? Offering us more expensive water and electricity, a paltry number of high paid jobs with no guarantee that they will be local hires, just as there is no guarantee that building the center will involve union workers--whats the bad news?!
The draft version of the water agreement with Project Blue only increases the rate charged for water when Project Blue exceeds the amount of water it's agreed to use.
That is NOT enough to stop Amazon from using far more water than it's allowed.
If Tucson is foolish enough to annex Amazon's data, Tucson Water and Pima County must be empowered to shut off Amazon's water, when they take too much water.
Phoenix's water regulations allow it to cut off a data center's water. We need the same protection Phoenix has.
I’d like to see the Agenda obtain Project Bezos’ methodology for estimating water and energy usage. I agree with Russell - I think they are lowballing both, based on what I’ve read about typical hyperscale data center usage.
We’ve asked to speak to the city about water this week. It's on my list of questions, and since I am lousy with secrets, i’ll post after the interview is over.
Where did you get the completely wrong factoid that Dahl was against 414? Given that he was basically on a sales tour to LDs and neighborhood associations trying to tout its benefits, i protest that statement. Also given that it was the greatest City blooper ever, losing EVERYWHERE, your misstatement actually deserves a public apology. Sadie Shaw, on the other hand, DID oppose it immediately, knowing that the last thing her constituents wanted was to spend more money for cops and their militaristic toys when there are urgent issues like homelessness to be addressed. Joe, i have alot of respect for your work but you are waaaaaay off on this one.
Joe, thank you for the excellent coverage on Project Blue. And, wow, what predatory practices by Amazon. This is what we get with oligarch's. Everyone get rid of the Amazon account and use this web site as a starting point so you know what to do. Also, CEBV had an excellent interview with the creator of Local First AZ; it is a must see! Our food source/quality is going to get limited and prices will soar - give it 6 months or less.
The City's information session from 5-7 p.m. on Aug.5th about the proposed data centers will be at the Tucson Convention Center Grand Ballroom, not the "Tucson Community Center."
It might be worthwhile to ask why 2 mentions of issues affecting Tucson, Pima County, SO AZ (though not only, re tariffs, of course), were quotes from KJZZ reporters, not AZPM 89.1:
1. ACLU /PCSD/ traffic stops/immigration, and 2. Pres. Sheinbaum/ tariffs. Is this a reflection of poor news coverage on 89.1, or.... ? Thank you.
1.) KJZZ has a reporter in Tucson, so we are still covering local news.
2.) Our In Other News highlights other local news reporting but is not meant to be comprehensive.
3.) We have a great working relationship with AZPM and both list their stories regularly and participate in their Pres Room segments whenever they invite us on.
Also, there is a press conference/rally at Ciscomani’s Tucson office tomorrow from 8-10 a.m. It’s billed as a celebration of Medicaid’s 60th anniversary, but I hope people show up in numbers demanding an in-person public forum during the August recess (not holding my breath)
When the Food City closed in Douglas...it was a crushing blow. The produce at Wally World is inedible.
Thank you for your update on the NDA, and for continuing to press that the name of the corporation behind this is Amazon. I have just completed my third draft over three days on a report that goes into the indirect water usage of Project Blue. Let me know if you are interested in this information. Essentially, it concludes that water consumption, direct and indirect, is likely to be from 3.4-5.9 times higher than Project Blue projects.
Hi, let’s find some time to talk. Love to learn more.
Can you please send me a quick email? Joe@TucsonAgenda.com.
In fact, prop 414 can only be overshadowed in its public dislike by Project Blue! Almost makes you wonder if this crew really wants to be re elected, or are they looking to appease a republican constituency in order to run for statewide offices? Offering us more expensive water and electricity, a paltry number of high paid jobs with no guarantee that they will be local hires, just as there is no guarantee that building the center will involve union workers--whats the bad news?!
Hi Betts~ Excellent points, as always.
The draft version of the water agreement with Project Blue only increases the rate charged for water when Project Blue exceeds the amount of water it's agreed to use.
That is NOT enough to stop Amazon from using far more water than it's allowed.
If Tucson is foolish enough to annex Amazon's data, Tucson Water and Pima County must be empowered to shut off Amazon's water, when they take too much water.
Phoenix's water regulations allow it to cut off a data center's water. We need the same protection Phoenix has.
I’d like to see the Agenda obtain Project Bezos’ methodology for estimating water and energy usage. I agree with Russell - I think they are lowballing both, based on what I’ve read about typical hyperscale data center usage.
We’ve asked to speak to the city about water this week. It's on my list of questions, and since I am lousy with secrets, i’ll post after the interview is over.
Where did you get the completely wrong factoid that Dahl was against 414? Given that he was basically on a sales tour to LDs and neighborhood associations trying to tout its benefits, i protest that statement. Also given that it was the greatest City blooper ever, losing EVERYWHERE, your misstatement actually deserves a public apology. Sadie Shaw, on the other hand, DID oppose it immediately, knowing that the last thing her constituents wanted was to spend more money for cops and their militaristic toys when there are urgent issues like homelessness to be addressed. Joe, i have alot of respect for your work but you are waaaaaay off on this one.
I was wrong.
While writing, I conflated one deeply unpopular two word proposal for another.
We’ve fixed this online and will run a correction tomorrow.
Thank you. Hope the correction is as blaringly right as the original was wrong!
Joe, thank you for the excellent coverage on Project Blue. And, wow, what predatory practices by Amazon. This is what we get with oligarch's. Everyone get rid of the Amazon account and use this web site as a starting point so you know what to do. Also, CEBV had an excellent interview with the creator of Local First AZ; it is a must see! Our food source/quality is going to get limited and prices will soar - give it 6 months or less.
https://localfirstaz.com/directory#!directory/map/ord=rnd
Here is the link to watch. https://youtu.be/24fUQZAM2cM?si=n1jMuU3_taYWOaoz
What is up with all of these local governing meetings and their technical difficulties recently? 😆
The city has some issues with the equipment in the chambers, as for outside events, they don't have a lot of experience in the community.
Ahh, that makes sense!
The City's information session from 5-7 p.m. on Aug.5th about the proposed data centers will be at the Tucson Convention Center Grand Ballroom, not the "Tucson Community Center."
Rats, I meant Monday, August 4th, at the Tucson Convention Center!
Fixed. Damn auto-correct.
It might be worthwhile to ask why 2 mentions of issues affecting Tucson, Pima County, SO AZ (though not only, re tariffs, of course), were quotes from KJZZ reporters, not AZPM 89.1:
1. ACLU /PCSD/ traffic stops/immigration, and 2. Pres. Sheinbaum/ tariffs. Is this a reflection of poor news coverage on 89.1, or.... ? Thank you.
1.) KJZZ has a reporter in Tucson, so we are still covering local news.
2.) Our In Other News highlights other local news reporting but is not meant to be comprehensive.
3.) We have a great working relationship with AZPM and both list their stories regularly and participate in their Pres Room segments whenever they invite us on.